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		<title>By: Ralph B</title>
		<link>http://kelsocartography.com/blog/?p=2215&#038;cpage=1#comment-86860</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 17:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I to was taken in by Thrive. I lost over $13,000 i went to my state Dept of Consumer Protection Div.
and I contacted The state of Utah about it and they were the best help.they helped me get a small portion of the money but I was still swindled out of a lot of money.I can&#039;t afford to go the Law suit but this was my life part of my retirement savings that I was swindled out of.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I to was taken in by Thrive. I lost over $13,000 i went to my state Dept of Consumer Protection Div.<br />
and I contacted The state of Utah about it and they were the best help.they helped me get a small portion of the money but I was still swindled out of a lot of money.I can&#8217;t afford to go the Law suit but this was my life part of my retirement savings that I was swindled out of.</p>
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		<title>By: BeverleyB</title>
		<link>http://kelsocartography.com/blog/?p=2215&#038;cpage=1#comment-79176</link>
		<dc:creator>BeverleyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 08:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have had a similar problem with Internet Income Solutions and Thrive to the tune of $15,000.  If anyone knows how to do a class action lawsuit and all of us sue the company together that might be worth a try.  It appears that a number of people have been ripped off by this company - and others like it - I doubt that I can get my money back - I joined up in 2009 as well - and did try some of the training - but it never got off the ground.  I was told that they would continue to work with me for free if I didn&#039;t make my investment back in the first 12 months - that never happened!!  Anyway, I don&#039;t know how class action law suits work - but other businesses have been sued collectively before so I wonder if there is a possibility that the same can be done with this business.

Anyone have any ideas?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had a similar problem with Internet Income Solutions and Thrive to the tune of $15,000.  If anyone knows how to do a class action lawsuit and all of us sue the company together that might be worth a try.  It appears that a number of people have been ripped off by this company &#8211; and others like it &#8211; I doubt that I can get my money back &#8211; I joined up in 2009 as well &#8211; and did try some of the training &#8211; but it never got off the ground.  I was told that they would continue to work with me for free if I didn&#8217;t make my investment back in the first 12 months &#8211; that never happened!!  Anyway, I don&#8217;t know how class action law suits work &#8211; but other businesses have been sued collectively before so I wonder if there is a possibility that the same can be done with this business.</p>
<p>Anyone have any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: DAJ</title>
		<link>http://kelsocartography.com/blog/?p=2215&#038;cpage=1#comment-61503</link>
		<dc:creator>DAJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 09:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I KNOW THIS COMPANY. THEY ARE ALL LIARS AND SCAM ARTISTS. SOME IDIOT NAMED TODD MACDONALD TOOK OVER RUNNING IT ABOUT 3 YRS. AGO AND HE IS NOTHING BUT A HUGE LIAR, FRAUD, BACK STABBING, SNEAKY JERK!  ANYONE IN ANY UTAH WHO APPLIES TO WORK FOR A COMPANY WHO HAS HIM IN CHARGE, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE.  HE RAN ANOTHER COMPANY IN UTAH THAT WENT UNDER ALSO.  HE&#039;S A FAKE!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I KNOW THIS COMPANY. THEY ARE ALL LIARS AND SCAM ARTISTS. SOME IDIOT NAMED TODD MACDONALD TOOK OVER RUNNING IT ABOUT 3 YRS. AGO AND HE IS NOTHING BUT A HUGE LIAR, FRAUD, BACK STABBING, SNEAKY JERK!  ANYONE IN ANY UTAH WHO APPLIES TO WORK FOR A COMPANY WHO HAS HIM IN CHARGE, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE.  HE RAN ANOTHER COMPANY IN UTAH THAT WENT UNDER ALSO.  HE&#8217;S A FAKE!!!</p>
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		<title>By: DKD</title>
		<link>http://kelsocartography.com/blog/?p=2215&#038;cpage=1#comment-34992</link>
		<dc:creator>DKD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you ever get this settled. I had a similar situation and have been unable to get my money back. They haven&#039;t responded to my letters or e-mails. It is a large sum of money and I have no clue how to get the money back. I never accessed their site or their &quot;materials&quot; so I should technically be able to get my money back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you ever get this settled. I had a similar situation and have been unable to get my money back. They haven&#8217;t responded to my letters or e-mails. It is a large sum of money and I have no clue how to get the money back. I never accessed their site or their &#8220;materials&#8221; so I should technically be able to get my money back.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://kelsocartography.com/blog/?p=2215&#038;cpage=1#comment-33501</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I definitely understand your concern and cannot begin to explain the depth of this markets less than reputable customer service and business practices.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely understand your concern and cannot begin to explain the depth of this markets less than reputable customer service and business practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://kelsocartography.com/blog/?p=2215&#038;cpage=1#comment-28981</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In 30 minutes I am to meet on the phone with the head manager and sign on. I&#039;m glad to read your posts. I will refuse. Thanks to all of you. I hope they do not have enough information on me to hurt my credit or something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 30 minutes I am to meet on the phone with the head manager and sign on. I&#8217;m glad to read your posts. I will refuse. Thanks to all of you. I hope they do not have enough information on me to hurt my credit or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Maddox</title>
		<link>http://kelsocartography.com/blog/?p=2215&#038;cpage=1#comment-25562</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Maddox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I joined Thrive mid July, and starting to run into articles like the one above, after another Thrive student suggested that I check BBB reports. I was charged $9,845.00, and ai find others have paid a lot less. I questioned this via an Email directed to the gentleman that sold me the program, with no response. I finally called the gentleman&#039;s secretary, who would not speak with me, but through another person, said the the gentleman was no longer in that office, but would not say where, nor would she return my phone call. 
I then called a Customer Service number, low and behold it was the same office in Chatsworth, CA. I questioned the gentleman that took my call about the difference, that others had paid for the same program, and he said that he had not seen a program like mine, as I had 10 weeks of direct training, not like others who only paid for 8 weeks. My fee was $4,445 more than the student I had talked to. 

Interesting though, I have never received a contract, copy of my bill, or cancellation forms, which is contrary to FTC requirements.---I was sold the program on July 14,2009. 

I have complained that I sometimes wait 2 to 3 days for a response to my Emails to my coaches, but was told by one of the coaches that they could not go home at night until all Emails are answered. I am trying to build a Banner and Logo, and really need their help, but have sent the request three times over the last three days, and have not received an answer. It appears that you need to be available five days a week, all day, in case they do respond. I have put a lot of time into this program, but at this point I do not like what I see, and what I read, and will pracead to try and get my money back If I can figure out the best way to start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I joined Thrive mid July, and starting to run into articles like the one above, after another Thrive student suggested that I check BBB reports. I was charged $9,845.00, and ai find others have paid a lot less. I questioned this via an Email directed to the gentleman that sold me the program, with no response. I finally called the gentleman&#8217;s secretary, who would not speak with me, but through another person, said the the gentleman was no longer in that office, but would not say where, nor would she return my phone call.<br />
I then called a Customer Service number, low and behold it was the same office in Chatsworth, CA. I questioned the gentleman that took my call about the difference, that others had paid for the same program, and he said that he had not seen a program like mine, as I had 10 weeks of direct training, not like others who only paid for 8 weeks. My fee was $4,445 more than the student I had talked to. </p>
<p>Interesting though, I have never received a contract, copy of my bill, or cancellation forms, which is contrary to FTC requirements.&#8212;I was sold the program on July 14,2009. </p>
<p>I have complained that I sometimes wait 2 to 3 days for a response to my Emails to my coaches, but was told by one of the coaches that they could not go home at night until all Emails are answered. I am trying to build a Banner and Logo, and really need their help, but have sent the request three times over the last three days, and have not received an answer. It appears that you need to be available five days a week, all day, in case they do respond. I have put a lot of time into this program, but at this point I do not like what I see, and what I read, and will pracead to try and get my money back If I can figure out the best way to start.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Sweetman</title>
		<link>http://kelsocartography.com/blog/?p=2215&#038;cpage=1#comment-22136</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Sweetman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been working with the BBB since October of last year (2008) with no success. It appears that the consumer (Me) has less rights than the business. Thrive tricked me into believing I could earn my investment back in just a few weeks.  When I decided I no longer wanted to be part of their program, I was told they could not refund my money since I agreed to the terms.  I spoke to Paul Castielo from Thrive and he told me I had one option, and that was to continue with the training. I was offered a 50% settlement which I declined. I never received any of Thrives services, so why should I pay anything ? I am currently working on filing a Civil suit against Thrive. It will take a week to put the the paperwork in order, but I hope it gets their attention. In the meantime, I will post my complaaint on every blog I can find. People need to be aware of companies like Thrive that feed off the unsuspecting. Perhaps in doing this, I can regain my investment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been working with the BBB since October of last year (2008) with no success. It appears that the consumer (Me) has less rights than the business. Thrive tricked me into believing I could earn my investment back in just a few weeks.  When I decided I no longer wanted to be part of their program, I was told they could not refund my money since I agreed to the terms.  I spoke to Paul Castielo from Thrive and he told me I had one option, and that was to continue with the training. I was offered a 50% settlement which I declined. I never received any of Thrives services, so why should I pay anything ? I am currently working on filing a Civil suit against Thrive. It will take a week to put the the paperwork in order, but I hope it gets their attention. In the meantime, I will post my complaaint on every blog I can find. People need to be aware of companies like Thrive that feed off the unsuspecting. Perhaps in doing this, I can regain my investment.</p>
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		<title>By: Kona</title>
		<link>http://kelsocartography.com/blog/?p=2215&#038;cpage=1#comment-21821</link>
		<dc:creator>Kona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please contact me at NotThrive@yahoo.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please contact me at <a href="mailto:NotThrive@yahoo.com">NotThrive@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Why Thrive Learning/Bright Builder Internet Scams won't go away &#124; How to Stop Telemarketers' Internet Scams</title>
		<link>http://kelsocartography.com/blog/?p=2215&#038;cpage=1#comment-17118</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Thrive Learning/Bright Builder Internet Scams won't go away &#124; How to Stop Telemarketers' Internet Scams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] data on the Thrive Learning Scamdirectly ripping people off comes fromthis 6 April blog from Kelso&#8217;s Corner - describing how a telemarketer representing Thrive Learning had sold his uneducated elderly [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] data on the Thrive Learning Scamdirectly ripping people off comes fromthis 6 April blog from Kelso&#8217;s Corner - describing how a telemarketer representing Thrive Learning had sold his uneducated elderly [...]</p>
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